# Adults Are Arguing About This 3rd Grade Math Problem

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"If Sue runs around the track twice, and John runs around the track four times more than Sue, how many times does John run around the track?" This problem was given to 3rd graders. A parent disagreed with the answer the teacher was marking. After it was posted online, people said both were wrong: the correct answer was a third number! So what is the correct answer? In this video I explain the correct answer and the three interpretations.

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Source of problem

http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/635873/Teacher-gives-wrong-answer-in-problem.html?nav=5196

Straight Dope forum discussion (slightly different numbers)

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-786145.html

Style guide for writing arithmetic, Professor Milo of Ausburg College

http://web.augsburg.edu/~schield/MiloPapers/984OfSigCompare3.pdf

WolframAlpha (400% more than 2)

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=400%25+more+than+2

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"The Joy of Game Theory" shows how you can use math to out-think your competition. (rated 3.9/5 stars on 24 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1500497444

"The Irrationality Illusion: How To Make Smart Decisions And Overcome Bias" is a handbook that explains the many ways we are biased about decision-making and offers techniques to make smart decisions. (rated 5/5 stars on 2 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1523231467/

"Math Puzzles Volume 1" features classic brain teasers and riddles with complete solutions for problems in counting, geometry, probability, and game theory. Volume 1 is rated 4.5/5 stars on 11 reviews. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517421624/

"Math Puzzles Volume 2" is a sequel book with more great problems. (rated 5/5 stars on 3 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517531624/

"Math Puzzles Volume 3" is the third in the series. (rated 5/5 stars on 3 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517596351/

"40 Paradoxes in Logic, Probability, and Game Theory" contains thought-provoking and counter-intuitive results. (rated 4.8/5 stars on 9 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517319307/

"The Best Mental Math Tricks" teaches how you can look like a math genius by solving problems in your head (rated 4.7/5 stars on 3 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/150779651X/

"Multiply Numbers By Drawing Lines" This book is a reference guide for my video that has over 1 million views on a geometric method to multiply numbers. (rated 5/5 stars on 2 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1500866148/

My blog post on this video

http://wp.me/p6aMk-4V7

Source of problem

http://www.miningjournal.net/page/content.detail/id/635873/Teacher-gives-wrong-answer-in-problem.html?nav=5196

Straight Dope forum discussion (slightly different numbers)

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-786145.html

Style guide for writing arithmetic, Professor Milo of Ausburg College

http://web.augsburg.edu/~schield/MiloPapers/984OfSigCompare3.pdf

WolframAlpha (400% more than 2)

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=400%25+more+than+2

If you like my videos, you can support me at Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/mindyourdecisions

Connect on social media. I update each site when I have a new video or blog post, so you can follow me on whichever method is most convenient for you.

My Blog: http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/

Twitter: http://twitter.com/preshtalwalkar

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Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/preshtalwalkar/

Tumblr: http://preshtalwalkar.tumblr.com/

Instagram: https://instagram.com/preshtalwalkar/

Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/mindyourdecisions

Newsletter (sent about 2 times a year): http://eepurl.com/KvS0r

My Books

"The Joy of Game Theory" shows how you can use math to out-think your competition. (rated 3.9/5 stars on 24 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1500497444

"The Irrationality Illusion: How To Make Smart Decisions And Overcome Bias" is a handbook that explains the many ways we are biased about decision-making and offers techniques to make smart decisions. (rated 5/5 stars on 2 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1523231467/

"Math Puzzles Volume 1" features classic brain teasers and riddles with complete solutions for problems in counting, geometry, probability, and game theory. Volume 1 is rated 4.5/5 stars on 11 reviews. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517421624/

"Math Puzzles Volume 2" is a sequel book with more great problems. (rated 5/5 stars on 3 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517531624/

"Math Puzzles Volume 3" is the third in the series. (rated 5/5 stars on 3 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517596351/

"40 Paradoxes in Logic, Probability, and Game Theory" contains thought-provoking and counter-intuitive results. (rated 4.8/5 stars on 9 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1517319307/

"The Best Mental Math Tricks" teaches how you can look like a math genius by solving problems in your head (rated 4.7/5 stars on 3 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/150779651X/

"Multiply Numbers By Drawing Lines" This book is a reference guide for my video that has over 1 million views on a geometric method to multiply numbers. (rated 5/5 stars on 2 reviews) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1500866148/

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